Positive Things About Hillary: The List

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by pumpagain69

The know nothing posing as the class clown.

https://youtu.be/pbRUvHZL4Mc

[MPkid]

Originally Posted by frankkim

I keep looking for something positive but nothing doing. Just more reasons to vote for the alternative.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn't even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood -- both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno -- husband Bill described her selection as "my worst mistake." Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier's radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.
Many younger voters will have no knowledge of "Travelgate." Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson -- and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours
Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the "bimbo eruption" and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:
· She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
· She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
· Hillary's devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.
· Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath.
· After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen.

Now we are exposed to: the destruction of possibly incriminating emails while Hillary was Secretary of State and the "pay to play" schemes of the Clinton Foundation. WHAT NEXT?

And with all of this and MORE.... She WILL be the next president. Ughhhh

[marsean]

[quote=MPkid;87612]And with all of this and MORE.... She WILL be the next president. Ughhhh[/QUOTE


Still one more debate to come and wonder of wonders, the actual election. Granted it looks that way and WikiLeaks may have waited too long to unleash, but I for one am getting tired of most of the media focusing on Trump's alleged groping of women as the key issue to look at to decide the election. The things that the next president will have to deal with do not appeal to the media to talk about for the most part.

[MPkid]

[quote=marsean;87622]

Originally Posted by MPkid

And with all of this and MORE.... She WILL be the next president. Ughhhh[/QUOTE


Still one more debate to come and wonder of wonders, the actual election. Granted it looks that way and WikiLeaks may have waited too long to unleash, but I for one am getting tired of most of the media focusing on Trump's alleged groping of women as the key issue to look at to decide the election. The things that the next president will have to deal with do not appeal to the media to talk about for the most part.

There are plenty of things the media could be asking HRC to make her look bad too (email, Benghazi, how she treats her staff, her health, how Bill treats woman vs. Trump and why there is a difference? Etc etc.) or since they have asked Trumps daughter on several occasions what she thinks of how her father treats women why not ask Chelsea the same question? I could go on and on for days....BUT the big difference is because it appears that this idiot Trump actually may have a chance (yes HRC is so bad that she has to worry about him beating her) the media is firing off every bit of ammo about Trump and his supposed views of women to make the few women left that aren't going to vote for HRC just because she has a pussy... not want to vote for him. It's actually sad to see the media determining this election.... Even though there really isn't an election they have to make it look like there is so their chosen one can win and people will believe the BS. They really really have to work super hard to make her win credible in the public eye...even against a douche like Trump!!!

[SSP]

2 Most recent polls actually have it tied and trump up by 2. We could be in store for a Brexit type outcome where the vote takes most by surprise

[marsean]

[quote=MPkid;87624]

Originally Posted by marsean

There are plenty of things the media could be asking HRC to make her look bad too (email, Benghazi, how she treats her staff, her health, how Bill treats woman vs. Trump and why there is a difference? Etc etc.) or since they have asked Trumps daughter on several occasions what she thinks of how her father treats women why not ask Chelsea the same question? I could go on and on for days....BUT the big difference is because it appears that this idiot Trump actually may have a chance (yes HRC is so bad that she has to worry about him beating her) the media is firing off every bit of ammo about Trump and his supposed views of women to make the few women left that aren't going to vote for HRC just because she has a pussy... not want to vote for him. It's actually sad to see the media determining this election.... Even though there really isn't an election they have to make it look like there is so their chosen one can win and people will believe the BS. They really really have to work super hard to make her win credible in the public eye...even against a douche like Trump!!!

Absolutely the case, no two ways about it, when Trump complains it's rigged, that is so obvious that most of the media are letting Hillary lie low now and piling on Trump. She is taking a break today from the grinding campaign, and they are not disturbing her. Trump is busy fighting off charges and they say they have proof to refute. It doesn't pass the sniff test. But they had a comparison of the Trump-women coverage vs. WikiLeaks coverage and the mainstream was about 7-8 minutes on Trump vs. about a minute on WikiLeaks on average in the last few days. Seems Trump's hope is on Chris Wallace being the moderator and asking fair but tough questions to both. Trump better do his homework as looks like it is coming down to it. He better have good answers for Syria and so better Hillary, better than last time. Obama did not have the combination after his red line and avoidance. Lot of tough questions out there. Where are we going with Iran as they have sent naval vessels towards Yemen where the Rebels have launched missiles at our Navy ships off the coast and even Obama gave permission to return fire. Kerry backed off of the Aleppo peace deal with Russia wiping out the city, where is that going? There are usually hot spots around the world at election time, but they are usually somewhat dormant in the past creeping up on an election. Part of Obama's legacy. WikiLeaks is being almost ignored. Has an odd odor, like it something is rotten in Denmark, no? Use your vote, pick a side and go with your best info and all you got. Avoiding it because they both are flawed is not using all you got. Just do it, maybe the turnout will show the people care.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by marsean

I for one am getting tired of most of the media focusing on Trump's alleged groping of women as the key issue to look at to decide the election. The things that the next president will have to deal with do not appeal to the media to talk about for the most part.

getting tired of it?

it definitely appeals to women voters and women believe it's a key issue and they are paying attention

believe facts or stay inside the bubble

women will decide who becomes the next president

Trump is down by 6 points with GOP women
down by 10 points with suburban women
down by 12 points with women ages 45 +
down by 7 points with white women with college degrees

do the math

Trump is hemorrhaging votes with women


Fox News Poll
10-14-16

Clinton leads among suburban women by plus + 24 points over Trump and she leads with women by plus + 19 points over Trump

the largest declines in support for Trump are among women ages 45 and over, he's down by 12 points with them, with suburban women, he's down by 10 points, with white women with a college degree, he's down by 7 points, with GOP women, he's down by 6 points, and with white college graduates, he's down by 6 points, with voters ages 65 and over, he's down by 11 points.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...-7-points.html


Fox News

Clinton’s lead over Trump has increased to seven points, as more than half of voters say Trump is not qualified to be president.

Clinton is 45 percent to Trump’s 38 percent

64 percent believe Clinton has the right temperament to serve effectively and 68 percent say she is qualified to be president.

It’s the just opposite for Trump, as 63 percent think he lacks the temperament to be president and 56 percent say Trump isn’t qualified to be president. For 49 percent, Trump is “not at all” qualified to be president.

Are the candidates good role models for children?

77% believe Trump is 'not' a good role model for children.

54% of voters say Clinton is a good role model for children.

photo of the Trump ship ----->>>

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by marsean

Absolutely the case, no two ways about it, when Trump complains it's rigged, that is so obvious

when interviewed today on the Sci-Fi channel, that's exactly what Big Foot said

The Flat Earth Society also said they will be releasing a joint statement along with DJT

[marsean]

it definitely appeals to women voters and women believe it's a key issue and they are paying attention

believe facts or stay inside the bubble

do the math

women will decide who becomes the next president <------ Libertine


You may have a point but if you notice the polls keep changing. I would not be surprised if essentially women's votes become the highest segment of votes that will make the difference. For that very reason the more that is coming out including Hillary's declared statement that you have to have two positions on any issue depending on whether it is your private position or your public position, among many other revelations, I think there is more game left to be played that will mean a whole lot to women voters. They are not stupid and neither is any other segment of the voters. Hillary has said "stronger together" but she is not appealing to the whole electorate, considering some of her statements including the "half of Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables and are irredeemable". Of course she had to walk that back, but the impression was made. A good example of her statement of needing two positions, but definitely does not qualify to exemplify her basic campaign slogan of "STRONGER TOGETHER", as if she were actually trying to bridge a divide in the people that existed throughout Obama's tenure. Her actions, not her rhetoric, are from the "DIVIDE AND CONQUER" Camp. Conversely, Trump's campaign slogan of "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" does not seek to divide people into groups. As I said there is one more debate and quite a bit of time until the election. It's not over until it's over. The mainstream media still has a chance to gain respect from the electorate by distancing themselves from collusion with the Clinton campaign, but will have to do so convincingly before the election. Vote your conscience.

https://vimeo.com/180652841

[frankkim]

women will decide who becomes the next president <------ Libertine

Just a thought - could Libertine be a woman?