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We lock up more people for small victim-less crimes, like sex crimes, gun possession, drug possession. Even high school kids... Who cares? everybody knows kids have sex in school nowadays, are sexting, and download porn...
LE should focus instead on the violent real crime, like home invasion robberies which are on the rise nowadays, even in expensive neighborhoods. But between the religious right, and the liberal feminists we hobbyists are screwed. What an unholy alliance... Together they have a majority. They want to destroy everything fun in this country. |
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it's time to retire and just beat the meat like we did as teenagers.....
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"We will come after you” - King County Sheriff Urquhart
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An organization of self-identified prostitution “hobbyists” who called themselves “The League,” and a half dozen brothels in Bellevue were raided and shut down. Before it was shut down, over 23,000 members across the United States were using the free website. The popular sex advertising and review website www.TheReviewboard.net was started by Sigurds Zitars, known by his online handle "Tahoe Ted" and eight other men. Police were able to make links between their case in King and Pierce counties to 15 states. A separate website the League created www.Kgirldelights.com had millions of hits per month. A group of Korean sex worker “hobbyists” in the Seattle area formed an exclusive club called "The League." The League’s members-only website www.theloeg.net was called The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (The LOEG). “We all know about Backpage.com and how bad it is. This was like Backpage.com on steroids. It was much, much bigger,” said King County Sheriff John Urquhart. Since the Bellevue Police Department’s vice unit was created in 2011, they have raided numerous massage parlors in the city. “The apartment brothels provided cover and concealment for their activities. Infiltrating that is difficult,” Bellevue Police Chief Steve Mylett said. Over the last year, the Bellevue Police Department began receiving complaints from residents of high-end downtown Bellevue condominiums reporting suspicious activity, different men frequently visiting certain apartments at all hours of the night, and staying for approximately 30-60 minutes each. The condominium brothels were operated by Donald Mueller and Michael Durnal. The pair acted as bookers, advertising the services of different women on www.TheReviewboard.net The League private members-only organization grew quickly. By last summer, they had 50 members and promoted over 300 Asian sex workers on their public website www.Kgirldelights.com Police shut down www.TheReviewboard.net website and served 126 search warrants and court orders related to the case. The League’s members-only website www.theloeg.net and public website www.Kgirldelights.com are also no longer operational. Sigurds Zitar, League leader Charles Peters, and the 10 other League members were charged with felony promoting prostitution. Mueller and Durnal were both charged with felony promoting prostitution, and police found probable cause for trafficking in the first degree and money laundering charges. ------------> The Review Board users were invited to meet-and-greets with League members. A King County Sheriff’s Officer undercover detective who infiltrated the League reported that he attended meet-and-greets, posted reviews and showed his involvement in the “hobby” by asking the leader, Peters, to help him solicit sex workers over five months before being taken off of “probation.” <--------- ------------> Police identified League members by following them to their vehicles and running their license plate numbers. Several of the meetings were also secretly recorded by police. <-------- ------------> King County Sheriff Urquhart said detectives also have the names and photos of thousands of men who signed up for accounts on www.TheReviewboard.net <--------- ------------> While charges are not currently being filed against the thousands of other sex buyers whose information was obtained during the probe on www.TheReviewboard.net and www.Kgirldelights.com King County Sheriff Urquhart has not ruled out further action. <--------- ------------> “We want to send a message to the men in the Seattle area who want to think about starting a website like this. If you are committing a crime of promoting prostitution by setting up these websites, by facilitating prostitution, we don’t want that to occur anymore and if you do, we will come after you,” King County Sheriff Urquhart said. <--------- http://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/365214201.html Last edited by Libertine; June 23rd, 2016 at 08:48 PM. |
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Shut down the pimps. Fucking "league" of losers pimping women. This site is cool because we all know how to not resort to the bottom barrel of pimping women. I hope hx goes down too.
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Whose side are you on, bro? The legal definitions of pimping and pandering are not just confined to the crazy shit you see on TV or in movies from the 70's. Do you really think none of the girls mentioned on this site are pimped? As far as most people are concerned, we mongers are already the bottom of the barrel, no matter what kind of girls we patronize. LE won't make any distinction either.
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The War on Sex Trafficking Is the New War on Drugs
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The War on Sex Trafficking Is the New War on Drugs Sex Work is Consensual watch this short video ------> http://youtu.be/v1NbKuQYrsE The War on Sex Trafficking Is the New War on Drugs Written by staff editor Elizabeth Nolan Brown Sex Trafficking of Americans: "The Girls Next Door." Conduct a news search for the word trafficking and you'll find pages of stories about the commercial sex trade, in which hundreds of thousands of women are supposedly trapped by coercion or force. These new nationwide sex trafficking laws aren't organic responses by legislators in the face of an uptick in human and sex trafficking activity or inadequate current statutes. They are in large part the result of a decades-long anti-prostitution crusade from Christian "abolitionists" and anti-sex feminists, pushed along by officials who know a good political opportunity when they see it and by media that never met a moral panic they didn't like. The fire is fueled by federal money, which sends police departments and activist groups into a grant-grubbing frenzy. The anti-sex trafficking movement is "just one big federal grant program." - "Everybody is more worried about where they're going to get their next grant" than helping victims. Because of the visceral feelings that the issue of paid sex has always provoked, it's easy for overstatements and false statistics to go unchallenged, winning repetition in congressional hearings and the press. Yet despite all the dire proclamations, there's little evidence of anything approaching an "epidemic" of sexual slavery. Of all the myths and misinformation about sex trafficking in America, the most pernicious may be that our current laws are insufficient. Pushing his new Justice for Victims of Trafficking Act, which passed last May, Senator John Cornyn (Republican-Texas) declared that it would "provide law enforcement with the tools" to hold human and sex traffickers accountable. Another co-sponsor, Senator Mark Kirk (Republican-Illinois), said the bill "gives police and prosecutors the tools they need to go after sex traffickers." Such statements from politicians, and there are plenty more, imply that we currently lack tough anti-sex trafficking laws. Yet for at least 15 years, federal policy makers and agencies have been continually strengthening these laws and increasing funding for their enforcement. The "end-demand" strategy, or the "Nordic model," focuses heavier penalties on sex buyers than sex sellers. Popularized by Nordic feminists, it's since become the law of the land in Canada and is rapidly influencing American policy, with many religious-based anti-sex trafficking groups also adopting its rallying cry. As a result, cities and states around the country have begun increasing penalties for prostitution clients and rebranding them as "sexual predators." The crime of "patronizing a prostitute" has now recently been rechristened "sexual exploitation." The theory behind "end demand" is that if only we arrest enough patrons or make the punishments for them severe enough, people will stop trying to purchase sex. Voila! No more prostitution, no more sex trafficking. If that sounds familiar, perhaps you're old enough to remember the '80s, when a similar approach was supposed to bring down the drug trade. "Ending the demand for drugs is how, in the end, we will win," President Ronald Reagan declared in 1988. Indeed, it was how we were already winning: "The tide of the battle has turned, and we're beginning to win the crusade for a drug-free America," Reagan claimed. The utter failure to "end demand" for drugs hasn't dented optimism that we can accomplish the trick with prostitution. During the "National Day of John Arrests" each year, police pose as sex workers online and then arrest would-be clients. Each year, hundreds of men are booked in these reverse stings and charged with offenses ranging from public indecency and solicitation to pimping and sex trafficking. If these anti-sex trafficking efforts sound a lot like old vice policing, that's because the tactics, and results, are nearly identical. 60 percent of these efforts involve police decoys pretending to be teens, and no actual victims. A typical tactic is for police to post an ad pretending to be a young adult sex worker, and once a man agrees to meet, the "girl" indicates that she's actually only 16 or 17. Most of the men soliciting sex here are not pedophiles and not necessarily seeking out someone underage. But "distinguishing between demand for commercial sex acts with an adult and demand for commercial sex acts with a minor is often an artificial construct." So to save the children, we need to prosecute men who have no demonstrated interest in children, because in the future they may seek sex with adults who could actually turn out to be old-looking teens, got that? When law enforcement uses the reverse sting approach no live victims are rescued from sex trafficking. Another trend is adding sex trafficking-related offenses to those that get perps on sex-offender registries. Anyone convicted of "patronizing a victim of sex trafficking" must register as a sex offender. Increasing criminal penalties on patrons, or "johns," has been hot in numerous state legislatures. In 21 states, "sex trafficking laws have been amended or originally enacted with the intent to decisively reach the action of buyers of sex." People found guilty of soliciting prostitution from someone of any age must do 100 hours of community service and attend "john school," where they will be educated on "the negative effects of prostitution and sex trafficking." A federal war on prostitution doesn't play well with large segments of Americans. Fighting human and sex trafficking, on the other hand, is a feel-good cause. Politicians insist that we must call Human and Sex Trafficking "by its true name—modern slavery." And what kind of monster would be against ending slavery? Which brings us to another factor driving all this sex trafficking action: It makes politicians look good. At a time when Republicans and Democrats can barely agree on anything, human and sex trafficking bills have attracted huge bipartisan support. Here is an area where enterprising legislators can attach their names to something likely to pass. And if it doesn't pass, for whatever reason, it's ripe for demagoguery: "My opponent voted against a bill to fight modern slavery!" Tough-on-crime policies, particularly tough-on-drugs policies, used this tactic for decades, until mass incarceration finally lost its luster. The federal government is giving away scores of millions in grant dollars for this quixotic crusade. Numerous activities are now being targeted under anti-sex trafficking efforts which includes everything from offering or soliciting paid sex, to living with a sex worker or just giving them a car ride, to running a classified advertising website. Yet when it comes to the way we talk about commercial sex, you have to be a victim or a evil predator. We've created a narrative with no room for nuance. We traffic not in facts but in melodrama. In TV broadcasts, campus panels, and congressional hearings, the most lurid and sensational stories are held up as representative. Legislators assure us that their intent is noble and pure. Unless we can learn the lessons of our past failed crusades, the war on sex trafficking could result in every bit as much misery as its panicky predecessors. Here's hoping it won't take us another four decades to realize that this new prohibition doesn't work either. Last edited by Libertine; June 23rd, 2016 at 08:48 PM. |
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We know there is human trafficking and some of it is sex traffic, but I would love to see some real numbers about this. Chinese laundry ladies and AAMP's We've had this discussion before about running across a potential "victim" and I guess there are levels. Like Choi who owed money and had a hard time getting out - but then maybe went back to it like a dog returning to its own vomit. Just like any vice, it's the fucked up people involved that have to ruin it for everyone |
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Nine times out of ten if I try to join the convo on something my comments are deleted. Not that I really care, but it's just such a circle jerk |
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