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The reason that FS has stayed at $100 since I started mongering about 16 years ago (with few exceptions), is simple supply vs demand. Thanks to the change in regulation of massage businesses from local to state agencies, we now have at least 5 times the amount of MPs as we used to 16 years ago. Probably 1/2 of those new ones don't offer FS...but guess what...a lot of us have learned to love a good legit massage + HE now that those type of shops are so prevalent.

Simple Supply vs Demand, so no raise for the massage whores...they're not working at McDonalds flipping burgers for $9 per hour after all.
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Amp girls are probably making more than us without paying taxes anyways. Plus now a day's Chinese parlors are taking the market with 30-40 $ an hour foot places with private rooms. You tip 40 and say thank you but you go to the viets and won't touch ur general without negotiation.I also start at 40 and my limit is 100 unless it's anal I go up to 120 (sometimes).
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You know, I hear a lot about how much money these girls make per hour, and how they all drive around in Beemers and live it up in casinos. That might be true for the cute young ones who are true hustlers and know how to work a man, but as we all know, they are vastly outnumbered by the reluctant middle-aged laundry ladies who don't live nearly the same lifestyle.

So think about this. If they make three or four times what we make per hour, and tax free to boot, here's what they're not getting:

Paid for time spent waiting for customers.
Paid sick leave.
Paid vacations and holidays.
Overtime for a shift lasting well over 8 hours.
Employer-paid/contributed health insurance.
Employer-paid/contributed pension.
Social Security.
Mileage for traveling to far-away parlors instead of their usual location when called upon to do so.
A lasting career.
A future.

Those are just a few items.

They also get to:

Worry about cops.
Worry about psychos.
Worry about robbers.
Deal with scammers.
Negotiate with cheapskates.
Get no tip or shitty tip for no good reason.

The list goes on.

I think we got the better end of it, all things considered.
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You know, I hear a lot about how much money these girls make per hour, and how they all drive around in Beemers and live it up in casinos. That might be true for the cute young ones who are true hustlers and know how to work a man, but as we all know, they are vastly outnumbered by the reluctant middle-aged laundry ladies who don't live nearly the same lifestyle.

So think about this. If they make three or four times what we make per hour, and tax free to boot, here's what they're not getting:

Paid for time spent waiting for customers.
Paid sick leave.
Paid vacations and holidays.
Overtime for a shift lasting well over 8 hours.
Employer-paid/contributed health insurance.
Employer-paid/contributed pension.
Social Security.
Mileage for traveling to far-away parlors instead of their usual location when called upon to do so.
A lasting career.
A future.

Those are just a few items.

They also get to:

Worry about cops.
Worry about psychos.
Worry about robbers.
Deal with scammers.
Negotiate with cheapskates.
Get no tip or shitty tip for no good reason.

The list goes on.

I think we got the better end of it, all things considered.
OK,,,, no benefits and headaches and other misc problems like dirty old men and disease... but they keep signing-up... no shortage of takeers, young, mid-aged, old... must be some attraction!!!
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You know, I hear a lot about how much money these girls make per hour, and how they all drive around in Beemers and live it up in casinos. That might be true for the cute young ones who are true hustlers and know how to work a man, but as we all know, they are vastly outnumbered by the reluctant middle-aged laundry ladies who don't live nearly the same lifestyle.

So think about this. If they make three or four times what we make per hour, and tax free to boot, here's what they're not getting:

Paid for time spent waiting for customers.
Paid sick leave.
Paid vacations and holidays.
Overtime for a shift lasting well over 8 hours.
Employer-paid/contributed health insurance.
Employer-paid/contributed pension.
Social Security.
Mileage for traveling to far-away parlors instead of their usual location when called upon to do so.
A lasting career.
A future.

Those are just a few items.

They also get to:

Worry about cops.
Worry about psychos.
Worry about robbers.
Deal with scammers.
Negotiate with cheapskates.
Get no tip or shitty tip for no good reason.

The list goes on.

I think we got the better end of it, all things considered.
For sure....ad to this the competition things like SA bring where potentially every college girl can now take a bite out of our limited monger budgets and now we have even more options. Many girls are raising their prices because they are probably seeing less customers. I for one hardly go to HX or MP girls anymore.
For sure we have it better.... We are the ones cumming for a rather small donation....not the ones jacking dirty monger dicks all day long.
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OK,,,, no benefits and headaches and other misc problems like dirty old men and disease... but they keep signing-up... no shortage of takeers, young, mid-aged, old... must be some attraction!!!
It's either this, or minimum wage (or less) working for a Chinese Simon Legree.

No English = Fucked. No English and no Green Card = Really Fucked!

Some sign up believing the hype that it's easy money. By the time they figure it all out, they're already deep into it.
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I don't mean to be argumentative, but I think there's two sides to this coin. I'm self-employed and I don't get paid for any of those things you mentioned either, and I pay taxes through the nose to boot.

I, too, worry about cops, getting ROB'd, negotiating with a greedy b***ch , getting the bait-n-switch scam, and leaving a tip when she absolutely didn't deserve one, not to mention losing the entry fee and an hour of my life just about every time I TOFTT.

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Originally Posted by asiansam View Post
You know, I hear a lot about how much money these girls make per hour, and how they all drive around in Beemers and live it up in casinos. That might be true for the cute young ones who are true hustlers and know how to work a man, but as we all know, they are vastly outnumbered by the reluctant middle-aged laundry ladies who don't live nearly the same lifestyle.

So think about this. If they make three or four times what we make per hour, and tax free to boot, here's what they're not getting:

Paid for time spent waiting for customers.
Paid sick leave.
Paid vacations and holidays.
Overtime for a shift lasting well over 8 hours.
Employer-paid/contributed health insurance.
Employer-paid/contributed pension.
Social Security.
Mileage for traveling to far-away parlors instead of their usual location when called upon to do so.
A lasting career.
A future.

Those are just a few items.

They also get to:

Worry about cops.
Worry about psychos.
Worry about robbers.
Deal with scammers.
Negotiate with cheapskates.
Get no tip or shitty tip for no good reason.

The list goes on.

I think we got the better end of it, all things considered.
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I don't mean to be argumentative, but I think there's two sides to this coin. I'm self-employed and I don't get paid for any of those things you mentioned either, and I pay taxes through the nose to boot.

I, too, worry about cops, getting ROB'd, negotiating with a greedy b***ch , getting the bait-n-switch scam, and leaving a tip when she absolutely didn't deserve one, not to mention losing the entry fee and an hour of my life just about every time I TOFTT.
You want to compare what you do to taking random strangers' dicks in you? Well, okay. I don't know what you do for a living, but I doubt it's even slightly comparable.

The hit to one's self-worth is not something you can calculate on a dollar scale.

Of course, if these women are just soul-less pieces of meat to you, then sure.

The thread title is just weird to me: of course it's all about the money. What else would it be about? I see so many reviews where the provider "gets into it," and have to laugh at the self delusion.
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I think a lot of u guys are sidetracked. we know all about the risks and why its a shitty job but the original post was about how much we should be paying them. So maybe some of you can tell us what u pay instead instead of getting on your high horse. Same with u cheap bastards why don't you tell us what u are giving the girls and why
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Paid for time spent waiting for customers.
I don't think Betty from Urban Therapy has spent even 5 minutes wating for a customer in the 7+ years I've known her at some 5 different AMPs

I'm sure her soul must be rotten from taking thousands upon thousands of monger dicks inside her for so long...but she always greets me with a smile and makes me feel "special" everytime I see her....and everytime I can't believe I'm getting that caliber of girl for $100, when I used to pay $500+ for TER girls in her league.

She should've paid off her house in Rancho Cucamonga by now (they're cheap there to begin with), but you never know what these girls like her who have easily netted $1 million+ in their whore careers do with their money (other than plastic surgery).
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