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Exclamation Trump's many overseas deals create national security nightmare

If Trump wins, his many overseas deals would create a national security nightmare.

A close examination by Newsweek of the Trump Organization, including confidential interviews with business executives and some of its international partners, reveals an enterprise with deep ties to global financiers, foreign politicians and even criminals.

It also reveals a web of contractual entanglements that could not just be canceled. If Trump moves into the White House and his family continues to receive any benefit from the company, during or even after his presidency, almost every foreign policy decision he makes will raise serious conflicts of interest and ethical quagmires.

Trump Organization pumps potentially hundreds of millions of dollars into the Trump family’s bank accounts each year. As a private enterprise, its businesses, partners and investors are hidden from public view, even though they are the very people who could be enriched by—or will further enrich—Trump and his family if he wins the presidency.

Trump’s business conflicts with America’s national security interests cannot be resolved so long as he or any member of his family maintains a financial interest in the Trump Organization during a Trump administration, or even if they leave open the possibility of returning to the company later. The Trump Organization cannot be placed into a blind trust, an arrangement used by many politicians to prevent them from knowing their financial interests; the Trump family is already aware of who their overseas partners are and could easily learn about any new ones.

Many foreign governments retain close ties to and even control of companies in their country, including several that already are partnered with the Trump Organization. Any government wanting to seek future influence with President Trump could do so by arranging for a partnership with the Trump Organization, feeding money directly to the family or simply stashing it away inside the company for their use once Trump is out of the White House. This is why, without a permanent departure of the entire Trump family from their company, the prospect of legal bribery by overseas powers seeking to influence American foreign policy, either through existing or future partnerships, will remain a reality throughout a Trump presidency.

The identity of every partner cannot be discovered if Trump reverses course and decided to release his taxes. The partnerships are struck with some of the more than 500 entities disclosed in Trump’s financial disclosure forms; each of those entities has its own records that would have to be revealed for a full accounting of all of Trump’s foreign entanglements to be made public.

Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the entire Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale.



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9-14-16

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/d...ty-498081.html
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Sounds like you are complaining about the Clintons but can't get the words out of your mind or mouth
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"the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale."

Like, when has that ever NOT been true? Does anyone think Big Business doesn't already run the country for its own benefit (whether it's good for the American public or not)?
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If Trump wins, his many overseas deals would create a national security nightmare.

A close examination by Newsweek of the Trump Organization, including confidential interviews with business executives and some of its international partners, reveals an enterprise with deep ties to global financiers, foreign politicians and even criminals.

It also reveals a web of contractual entanglements that could not just be canceled. If Trump moves into the White House and his family continues to receive any benefit from the company, during or even after his presidency, almost every foreign policy decision he makes will raise serious conflicts of interest and ethical quagmires.

Trump Organization pumps potentially hundreds of millions of dollars into the Trump family’s bank accounts each year. As a private enterprise, its businesses, partners and investors are hidden from public view, even though they are the very people who could be enriched by—or will further enrich—Trump and his family if he wins the presidency.

Trump’s business conflicts with America’s national security interests cannot be resolved so long as he or any member of his family maintains a financial interest in the Trump Organization during a Trump administration, or even if they leave open the possibility of returning to the company later. The Trump Organization cannot be placed into a blind trust, an arrangement used by many politicians to prevent them from knowing their financial interests; the Trump family is already aware of who their overseas partners are and could easily learn about any new ones.

Many foreign governments retain close ties to and even control of companies in their country, including several that already are partnered with the Trump Organization. Any government wanting to seek future influence with President Trump could do so by arranging for a partnership with the Trump Organization, feeding money directly to the family or simply stashing it away inside the company for their use once Trump is out of the White House. This is why, without a permanent departure of the entire Trump family from their company, the prospect of legal bribery by overseas powers seeking to influence American foreign policy, either through existing or future partnerships, will remain a reality throughout a Trump presidency.

The identity of every partner cannot be discovered if Trump reverses course and decided to release his taxes. The partnerships are struck with some of the more than 500 entities disclosed in Trump’s financial disclosure forms; each of those entities has its own records that would have to be revealed for a full accounting of all of Trump’s foreign entanglements to be made public.

Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States. If Donald Trump wins this election and his company is not immediately shut down or forever severed from the entire Trump family, the foreign policy of the United States of America could well be for sale.



Newsweek
9-14-16

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/d...ty-498081.html

Easy to quote magazine article or enter a url. But it sounds like a worry over what might happen. Like those in power may actually exert influence. Guess what, that's the way the World is wired. Nothing new and in fact I thought of all the parallels to the Clintons when I first read this. Somebody's worried.
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Easy to quote magazine article or enter a url. But it sounds like a worry over what might happen. Like those in power may actually exert influence. Guess what, that's the way the World is wired. Nothing new and in fact I thought of all the parallels to the Clintons when I first read this. Somebody's worried.
Actually, I appreciate Libby's efforts to bring substance to this forum as opposed to just spouting unsupported hot air. Granted, it may sometimes amount to posting someone else's hot air, but he at least credits his source material.

I too thought of the Clintons while reading the article. In some respects, Trump and Hillary are both members of the same club.
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Libertine your bat shit crazy if you think your liberal press is reliable journalism.
I challenge you to post your sources any fair reporting about that disaster Hillary.
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read reliable journalism and use critical thinking. credible journalists investigative reports on all politicians from any political party is now labeled as "Hot Air" ? believing and posting conspiracy theories as the factual truth from bat shit crazy websites and blogs that their use headlines for click bait is moronic. seasoned well respected investigative journalists stories are not Op-Ed articles.
Lib, with all due respect, I read the entire article on the Newsweek site (thanks for the link), and it is most definitely an Op-Ed hit piece. Even an article written by a well-respected journalist and investigative reporter still merits scrutiny and does not mandate mere opinion and speculation to be taken as gospel. While well-written and peppered with some facts (which don't necessarily support his conclusions), it has an obvious agenda it is trying to advance and makes sweeping unsupported statements. So yeah, sometimes you do just regurgitate someone else's hot air. Not the first time I've called you on it.

From the article:

"Never before has an American candidate for president had so many financial ties with American allies and enemies, and never before has a business posed such a threat to the United States."

"Never before?" Really? So, for example, entering both world wars mainly to protect the investments of American war profiteers did not put our country at risk for the benefit of the 1% (does anyone doubt we would have entered WWII anyway even if Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbor)? Don't get me started. And then there were the Iraq wars. They were about freedom, or oil? Etc.

I tried to give you props for at least backing up your posts, but that doesn't mean I accept all your sources.

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Let's cut to the chase here.

Who is the strongest candidate. Who is the one that you trust to answer the phone at 2 AM like Hillary said she would be?

Barry railed on Trump about Putin. Do you really think that Trump is going to give away America to Putin? I think Putin sees Trump as a strongman and vice versa.

Is Trump going to negotiate away America like Barry did or Hillary - think Nuclear.

Trump may be an asshole but Hillary is a total fuckin douch and Trump wont affect our hobby at all...

get over it
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Actually, I appreciate Libby's efforts to bring substance to this forum as opposed to just spouting unsupported hot air. Granted, it may sometimes amount to posting someone else's hot air, but he at least credits his source material.

I too thought of the Clintons while reading the article. In some respects, Trump and Hillary are both members of the same club.
Yes, I agree it is good to have various views as it exposes more info or ideas that may be true or relevant. So I give Lib kudos for keeping up the digging for new material but if you are quoting sources it does still not mean that it is true and not just someone's opinion. Regardless of the source. Granted most of the media is liberal. Anything put out there has to have a kernel of truth or it becomes rejected quickly, but in politics it is not always what is true that makes the difference in an election. If the candidate is persuasive the people will elect them...Now this thought about 'members of the same club' there is a lot of truth in that but Hillary is banking on continuing the status quo where
Trump is the change agent. When Hillary was running against Obama for the nod it did not work. Obama ran for hope and change. What is the final result with 8 years of Obama. Final analysis, the voters will decide.
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