Don't bother with SA anymore - Massage Parlor Reviews Forum

Obsessive · #1 July 8th, 2018

Decided I would be willing to pay the monthly fee for 2 months. So far, in 40 days the results are:

- Ended up with 1 meet with nothing better than an escort I could have found from no-pay venues. Same basic rate. Was like pulling teeth. She had a hot body but fresh bolt-ons, too much botox and lip injections. Profile said she was 24, she claimed in person she was 27 but really she looked mid-30s trying to hold onto youth. Mechanical sex.

- Some exchanged numbers and communications, loosely formed plans, or disappearing acts. Early on they seem highly interested but either drop off within 3-4 chat exchanges on the site or after a few texts. I evaluated all my conversations and nothing seemed like a red flag to me: very little boring talk and mostly engaged banter.

- Of the roughly 150 I've messaged, only 20 engaged in conversation and about 8 or 10 displayed interest to keep communicating. Results so far described above. I am still trying to convert to results beyond that 1 experience.

- Don't bother with long initial messages. Based on the past 2 times I've had an active account and this last time so far, and against everything these women claim about what they're looking for, a short dumb message of less than 8 words will get more of them to read and react than anything else. Just read their profile to know which 3-8 words to message them with. It doesn't matter, though, these women can't carry any consistent communication because they're looking for mister perfect worse than any general dating site. Yet you see them almost always online still looking and looking and looking. Do you think they will ever meet anyone?

- More than 95% of them have princess syndrome worse than any typical dating site. They are looking for a guy who is perfect who will treat them like a princess and shower them with money and gifts, leave their life alone (so they can attempt to juggle multiple men). They have decided that since they are on the site they are top notch catches. It's like a twisted form of feminism.

- I only had 8 women contact me first. 4 were extremely unappealing. 2 were obvious hookers or hooker teams. 2 were genuinely decent options but their expectations were ridiculous.

- The majority of the ones I would consider, which would be the ones I contacted, seem to want at least $600 per meet, extrapolated either based on allowance or literal per-meet. This would be in addition to the expense of wining & dining them and gifts. The economy may be improving but this level of expectation means they all think they are supermodels who will land a multi-millionaire. I don't think they have any conception of reality that 99% of the site are just roughly around upper middle class range men. Top 10% but nowhere near top 2%.

- A fair portion of them act like they refuse to have sex for money. They are self-deluded or playing games.

- The site took away definitions of the lifestyles, very likely to avoid looking like a site that promotes prostitution. They even have mechanisms for reporting users who are on there clearly for prostitution (but seriously who would report anyone?) Because of that, the women are all over the map when it comes to their choice so many of them just choose "Open" which makes it extremely difficult to gauge. I decided the best thing to do is not even talk about money and just get towards meetups which as you can see from the results so far barely seems any better of a strategy.

- I have 2 right now that seem like making plans would work but one of them is behaving like a space cadet and the other is too far of a distance to do any more than per-meet which is fine but I can see easily fizzling. I think like many she will chicken out anyway.

- Most of the likes or favorites you will see (that aren't the ones you contact) will come from overweight black hookers (who can no longer advertise on BP, CL etc), much older women, or oddities that you see plenty of on normal dating sites.

My conclusion is that unless you have a vast amount of extra funds and don't mind burning stacks of money on women who think they are worth three or more times than reality, who expect you to be perfect, SA is worthless. I'll try to get better results on the remaining 20 days on the site, but it's not looking at all worthwhile.

deezguy · #2 July 8th, 2018

Thanks for relaying your experiences and observations. I’ve heard talk about SA being a better alternative to our hobby. It sounds like you’ve interacted with a fair amount. But, this might still be considered anecdotal. It would be good to hear about similar and opposing experiences and observations. Especially, relating the money and effort spent compared to the number meet-ups

anttdog · #3 July 8th, 2018

Sorry, which site is this about?

Obsessive · #4 July 8th, 2018

anttdog it's Seeking Arrangement a "Sugar Daddy" site

Deezguy the other times I used the site I got some results but they were slim. One of my results on my first round with SA ended up no-pay free sex but it seems like it was a total anomaly at the time and ended almost as quickly as it got started. She just legit wanted an older smart guy to bang her while she was in CA for a short time. Had nothing to do with the lack of pay arrangement - she just moved out of state.

My experience is just 1 person, maybe my follow-ups aren't optimal for results? I think I'm probably communicating better than most guys, but no way to know. I too would like to read some fresher outcomes from others on here. Please only want to hear from guys who have had accounts recently and got more than 1 or 2 random one-off results. BTW I go after mostly the white girls on there, some Asians, some Latinas.

mikesan1 · #5 July 8th, 2018

It's a lot like prospecting.
A ton of work and preparation.
If you're not ready to work it, don't bother.
If you are, you can find some real nuggets but it can take some time and effort.

MPkid · #6 July 8th, 2018

I have not been on the site for several months but I still have a handful of girls I have cultivated from the site. A latina that I have seen off and on for almost 4 years, a Japanese girl I have been seeing for about 3 years (that recently disappeared for several months...claimed she was in Japan but her body says she was off having a baby somewhere!), another Latina that is moving away for school and sadly an amazing Japanese MILF that just found a serious BF.
SA is a weird thing in that you send out 100 messages and get nothing....then a few trickle in, then you meet a couple you like, then several more reply and you have too many. Some of these girls don't reply for several weeks! The only difference (which could explain things) is EVERY...not some, not most, but EVERY single white girl I ever gave a shot to on that site turned into a crazy, psycho, flaky, loser nightmare! I know you're not that into Asian girls but I have had the best luck with Asian and Latinas. The sweet spot seems to be in the 25-30 range. The younger girls tend to have more issues and are flakier.

MPkid · #7 July 8th, 2018

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Originally Posted by mikesan1

It's a lot like prospecting.
A ton of work and preparation.
If you're not ready to work it, don't bother.
If you are, you can find some real nuggets but it can take some time and effort.

Yes, You're 100% right. It takes at least a month of sending messages etc before results start to come in. Then watch out because you will end up with way more than you can afford! LOL
I just referred a friend to SA and it's taken him a month to start getting results and he has met 2 or 3 that he's in the process of making arrangements with. He only targets Asians. He's retired and has money so he has plenty of time and spare $$$. He's in the perfect location too (Torrence) so he can hit LA and OC within 30-40 min either way. If I had easy access to LA a whole new world would open up. I just don't have time to drive that far for a hook up.

deezguy · #8 July 8th, 2018

So, SA isn’t for those who don’t have the time or, more importantly, the money to invest. Some of us hobby just a couple times a month or less because of that. It sounds like those mongers should stick to hitting the MPs or reviewed providers. Some of us like instant gratification but still want to increase our chances of getting a hit and not striking out. That’s why we use MPR as a resource.
There are also some of us who have used the traditional method and have also developed long term relationships with providers. Some of these relationships are no longer pay for play and/or in-house. Mongers may give reduced rates or have in-kind relationships.
It sounds like, depending on your condition, different methods will provide some measure of success.

Obsessive · #9 July 8th, 2018

I just want a new way to meet UTR girls. The whole Internet landscape has been devastated. I have been looking around for weeks and have not found a viable way anymore to meet girls who don't mind arrangements and want to keep them highly discreet. I was thinking SA would have increased the options but it seems no better than before.

Hugh G. Rexion · #10 July 9th, 2018

I just let mine expire. It still works for me but the price is crazy now.