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If you read Cherry v. Koch, it will make more sense what the word "fee" means. The judge makes it clear that there are multiple participants and not singular participants involved with the fee transaction. The commercial aspect is the profit from the slavery.

Cherry v. Koch, 126 A.D.2d 346, 514 N.Y.S.2d 30 (N.Y.A.D. 2 Dept. 1987). The judge cannot give Fred Cherry and Margo St. James the right because the New York Legistatures never took their right to sex work away.Margo St. James claim to be working for a pimp by claiming to be a prostitution.

The judge make it clear the fee is involved in commerce. The commerce is the rent pay to a pimp for the use of a prostitute. If you read the word payment for professional services. The word "services" is slavery. The slavery is one working for the benefit of another. The word "engage" means to pledge to do, pledge to forbear, or to employ one self. The word "self" means an identical twin.

He also make it clear that mistress-lovers relationship is noncommercial and a mink coat given to a wife is not a fee. In mistress-lovers relationship there is cash and gifts given for sex. These items are not considered fees because there is no rent payment to a pimp.

The judge cannot give what the legislature never took away. Fred Cherry went to his grave miserable and he never knowing he had the right to sex work all along. The judge is in a secret society under the Vatican. He cannot straight out told Fred Cherry and Margo St. James of the New York Prostitution Loopholes. He try to give them hints. That all the judge can do for them.

It was the word game after all that got Fred Cherry not knowing he have the right to pay for sex work.

The word "services" comes from the Latin root of servitude. This is the word used in slavery. An independent sex worker is not submitting to the will of the client. She does what she likes. If there is no agreement, then there is no service. After reading the prostitution laws that use the word "fee", I saw the word "with another" stick out. The word "another" means additional. So I came to the conclusion it is written in the context of pimping. I though the fee was a negotiable instrument a month ago. If you bring this argument with the jury, it will not fly. It can be a negotiable instrument. It is a weak argument. A fee is a rent payment given to a pimp argument is a strong argument and it is based on legal authority. If you read the court case, Chery v. Koch, it makes it clear the fee is involved with profit and organized crime. The NY prostitution law is consistence with the definition of the Model Penal Code that a prostitute is someone who participate in sexual activity for hire. Hire is bailment which is rent. Independent escort doesn't every get into bailment. Bailment is a custody by a non-owner. If there is a pimp involves, the custody of the body by the pimp form bailment or the cash given to the prostitute which is to be handed over to the pimp forms bailment.

Thee public fool system, media, ignorant people, and society taught us to speak a language of human trafficking (commerce). People misuse words and mislabel stuff all the time. Independent escorts and other sex workers are misidentify as prostitute when they are not. That is how we lost our freedom

"Missing is the commercial aspect of sex for a fee, where organized crime combines its profit with other illegal activities while corrupting governmental office and exploiting young women (People v Freaney, 108 A.D.2d 228, supra; Commonwealth v Dodge, 287 Pa Super Ct 148, 429 A2d 1143, 1149, supra; Commonwealth v King, 374 Mass 5, 372 N.E.2d 196, 201, n 5, supra). Finally, private sexual intimacy between a married couple poses no threat to the public order (see, State v Mueller, 66 Hawaii 616, 628, n 8, 671 P2d 1351, 1359, n 8, supra; State v Forrest, 439 So 2d 404, 409 [La], supra)."-Cherry v. Koch, 129 Misc. 2d 346, 491 N.Y.S.2d 934 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1985)

"Finally, petitioner Cherry contends that Penal Law § 230.03 discriminates between those who keep "mistresses" and those who patronize prostitutes. Petitioner's first shortcoming in this contention is that he offers no evidence or proof that the activity between "mistresses" and those who keep them is not criminal.*fn12 Secondly, even if discrimination exists between these classes, equal protection is not violated so long as some ground of difference exists to rationally explain the different treatment (People v Liberta, 64 N.Y.2d 152, 163, supra).*fn13 Although the relationship between a mistress and lover does not rise to the lofty status given the marriage relationship, it lacks most of the evils perceived by the Legislature as attendant to prostitution. It is certainly not connected with organized crime or a source of profit for use in combine with other illegal activities. It is, for the most part, neither indiscriminate nor commercial. It is usually conducted between singular, not multiple participants."-Cherry v. Koch


"Webster’s New International Dictionary of the English Language (Second Edition—Unabridged (1947) at page 928 defines ‘fee’ as:
‘Compensation, often a fixed charge, for Professional service or for special and requested exercise of Talent or of Skill, as by an artist; as a Fee for consultation; a retaining Fee.’ (Emphasis supplied).

Corpus Juris Secundum devotes three pages to various definitions of the word ‘fee’. It is variously defined as:
‘compensation to Professional men, a remuneration for services rendered in the line of their Professions’; ‘recompense for official or Professional services’; and ‘reward, compensation, or wage given to one for the performance of Professional services.’"-People v. Block, 71 Misc.2d 714 (1972)

"Service..- n. The act of serving; the occupation of a servant; the performance of labor for the benefit of another, or at another's command; attendance of an inferior, hired helper, slave, etc., on a superior, employer, master, or the like; also, spiritual obedience and love.- Dean's Law Dictionary Version 81

"Services Those acts or renders, as they were called, which were due to the lords from their tenants under the old system of feudal tenure."- Dean's Law Dictionary Version 81

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You are probably right on the money, but I can't throw caution to the wind and click on a site called "ploopholes". It just screams "virus".

Excellent homework. Now back to searching for poon.
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