President Obama's birth certificate

[Lector]

ASam, we're cool, just talkin'
I'd say fair share should be Reagan days tax rates, when the balance of wealth between rich and poor was more sustainable, when being in the middle class meant that you had a shot at it, when republicans still believed in science.... and their president could compromise with the Democrats.
That said, I hated Reagan, a liar that got elected by postponing the release of our hostages in Iran.

[hornyag101]

Originally Posted by MPkid

Many of you might have already seen this but this but I think it's brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3qYHWRIZk

That is a great clip and absolutely right.

History tells us that no one stays on top forever, complacency sets in with any great nation, being comfortable means being able to relax. Complacency has taken a hold of this country, probably began 20+ years ago.

Here is a clip that recaps history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi-Gk25qSTU

It is pretty much the fault of the People for the state we are in now. We all know the politicians suck but instead of fighting against them we fight among each other.

We have turned the corner from the hardest working nation in the world to the laziest bunch of ingrates and it is everyone else's fault except our own. It's about time when we look in the mirror when asking who is going to help me.

[MPkid]

Originally Posted by hornyag101

That is a great clip and absolutely right.

History tells us that no one stays on top forever, complacency sets in with any great nation, being comfortable means being able to relax. Complacency has taken a hold of this country, probably began 20+ years ago.

Here is a clip that recaps history:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi-Gk25qSTU

It is pretty much the fault of the People for the state we are in now. We all know the politicians suck but instead of fighting against them we fight among each other.

We have turned the corner from the hardest working nation in the world to the laziest bunch of ingrates and it is everyone else's fault except our own. It's about time when we look in the mirror when asking who is going to help me.

How can "We the people" do anything? Vote out the current politicians so they will be replaced by more of the same? We're all fucked and the system is corrupt. Most of our elected officials have been bought and paid for by "Big Oil" and will do what they are told to do by the oil companies in order to keep the money flowing so they can get re-elected. Nothing we do will ever stop this cycle. That is why we will never see a viable alternative to fossil fuels in our lifetime and that is why we will never have a government that is for the people ever again. Our Govt. will now and forever be for the big corporations, rich and especially the oil industry. Look at the BP oil spill fiasco and notice nobody was fired or punished and BP still hasn't had to answer for this mess. Sure they have thrown a few bucks at it as a gesture of good faith but have not paid all the claims against them by the people who's business were destroyed as a result of their fuck up. It's business as usual. But if you get caught pouring a few quarts of oil down the storm drain be prepared for some hefty fines and or even jail time. Check out the documentary The Big Fix and see the problems the chemicals they (BP) are still illegally dumping on the oil in the Gulf are causing.

[asiansam]

Originally Posted by hornyag101

... We have turned the corner from the hardest working nation in the world to the laziest bunch of ingrates and it is everyone else's fault except our own ...

Um, I think that description fits Europe more than it fits us. We work longer hours, have less vacation time and retire later than they do. And talk about entitlement! Their demands and expectations regarding their employment would make even a Teamster blush!

The only comparison where we would look bad is against East Asian countries. I think we still pretty much blow everyone else away.

[hornyag101]

Originally Posted by asiansam

Um, I think that description fits Europe more than it fits us. We work longer hours, have less vacation time and retire later than they do. And talk about entitlement! Their demands and expectations regarding their employment would make even a Teamster blush!

The only comparison where we would look bad is against East Asian countries. I think we still pretty much blow everyone else away.

OK, we are right behind Europe, make you feel any better?

Your right about the East Asian country's, there in the abundance phase, were in the complacency/apathy phase.

[hornyag101]

Originally Posted by MPkid

How can "We the people" do anything? Vote out the current politicians so they will be replaced by more of the same? We're all fucked and the system is corrupt. Most of our elected officials have been bought and paid for by "Big Oil" and will do what they are told to do by the oil companies in order to keep the money flowing so they can get re-elected. Nothing we do will ever stop this cycle. That is why we will never see a viable alternative to fossil fuels in our lifetime and that is why we will never have a government that is for the people ever again. Our Govt. will now and forever be for the big corporations, rich and especially the oil industry. Look at the BP oil spill fiasco and notice nobody was fired or punished and BP still hasn't had to answer for this mess. Sure they have thrown a few bucks at it as a gesture of good faith but have not paid all the claims against them by the people who's business were destroyed as a result of their fuck up. It's business as usual. But if you get caught pouring a few quarts of oil down the storm drain be prepared for some hefty fines and or even jail time. Check out the documentary The Big Fix and see the problems the chemicals they (BP) are still illegally dumping on the oil in the Gulf are causing.

Politicians basically do what the majority wants them to do, the majority doesn't give a shit so why should they?

It is not until the People change that the politicians do, that is the way it works. If the politicians only cater to Big Oil then that is because the People have lost there power. Either they get it back or as has been said earlier, complacency/apathy has taken over

[MPkid]

Originally Posted by hornyag101

Politicians basically do what the majority wants them to do, the majority doesn't give a shit so why should they?

It is not until the People change that the politicians do, that is the way it works. If the politicians only cater to Big Oil then that is because the People have lost there power. Either they get it back or as has been said earlier, complacency/apathy has taken over

Politician DON'T do what the majority wants...they say what the majority wants to hear to get elected...then they do whatever the fuck THEY want. We have seen it time and time again. So go vote for the next guy promising to be different and promising CHANGE and six months later see what that gets you...more of the same. It can't be fixed by us voters because the guys that really WILL make changes and make waves in Washington will never get elected because they don't get backed by the oil companies (who don't want politicians they can't control) and can't effectively run against the guys with the deep oil pockets. There ain't no fixing it...like it or leave it. Who's ready to go to Asia with me? LOL

[hornyag101]

You got a point MPkid, when is the trip to Asia, I gotta sell all my shit! lol

[MPkid]

Originally Posted by hornyag101

You got a point MPkid, when is the trip to Asia, I gotta sell all my shit! lol

I'd leave tomorrow if I could...however my VN wife is living the American Dream while I'm trapped in the American nightmare. She doesn't understand how fucked this country is and just says American is better than VN because you can easily make more money here. I agree with her there...but I can get by on $1000 a month (or less) and live very well on $1500 - $2000 a month in Cambodia so why should I kill myself making more money here only to still eek by when all is said and done? I can open a small business over there for pennies on the dollar and rent a spot for $250 a month that has living quarters above it or rent a furnished apartment for about $80-$100 a month. I already have several viable business concepts for over there but my wife ain't going back to Asia so I'm trapped watching our once great nation slide into the toilet and I'm sitting on one of the smelly logs as it swirls around the bowl on it's way to the sewer. The worst part of it is everyone I tell I want to move to Asia says why would you want to leave America? America is great!! People have been so brainwashed by our faux news media that they think nothing is wrong. As long as there is cold beer in the refrigerator, Their car has gas and water magically shoots out of the faucet when you turn the handle...everything is awesome!! You think everything is great just try NOT paying your income taxes once and see how you like it...or for that matter your property tax, car registration (tax for driving your car) business tax and if you're lucky enough to have any money left and you want to buy something don't forget after all the other tax you paid you have to pay another 8% of whatever you have left on sales tax. Yes, America is great... just not for the regular person living here. My accountant asked me what am I still working??? I said I have to make a living to survive. He said if I went out of business I could liquidate my inventory, keep the money, go on unemployment, apply for housing, medical, food stamps and all of the other welfare programs the Govt. offers and make more money without owning a business! I would do that the minute they have an AMP financial assistance program! So there you have it fellow mongers...I run a business, pay my unfair taxes and keep up the American nightmare JUST so for 30 min. a time a few times a month I can fuck an Asian. Now you see why Asia is so appealing to me!!! In Asia I can run a business a few days a week and fuck Asians all the rest of the time...I'm living in an alternate universe where everything is reversed....which is fine until you discover the other opposite universe exists!

[ichi the killer]

Originally Posted by 8934217892008

Ever since American health care insurance was made a for profit private enterprise, service went down and cost went up. These companies are Publicly traded on the stock exchange and we wonder why our coverage sucks and there's so much fine print.

All my friends from Canada or the UK like their government healthcare a lot.

Hey Newt! We got us a socialist here! Where is the tar and feathers?